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ID | Project | Category | View Status | Date Submitted | Last Update | ||||
0004075 | Doomseeker | UI | public | 2022-12-31 02:59 | 2023-01-05 12:30 | ||||
Reporter | WubTheCaptain | ||||||||
Assigned To | Zalewa | ||||||||
Priority | normal | Severity | tweak | Reproducibility | sometimes | ||||
Status | resolved | Resolution | fixed | ||||||
Platform | OS | OS Version | |||||||
Product Version | 1.3.3 | ||||||||
Target Version | 1.4.0 | Fixed in Version | 1.4.0 | ||||||
Summary | 0004075: Many small inconsistencies and ambiguities Create Game's Zandronum tab | ||||||||
Description | Perhaps best to be explained with attached screenshots.
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Additional Information | $ git describe --tags 1.3.3-111-gc21f2267 Source:'https://bitbucket.org/Doomseeker/doomseeker/src/c21f2267f91b8041e3d2f60d32ad0e3d1ff2219e/ [^]' | ||||||||
Attached Files | 2022-12-31-025218_maim.png [^] (95,477 bytes) 2022-12-31 02:59
2022-12-31-030002_maim.png [^] (68,348 bytes) 2022-12-31 03:00 2022-12-31-030025_maim.png [^] (58,927 bytes) 2022-12-31 03:00 zandronum_2022-12-31-1319_LMS.jpg [^] (45,767 bytes) 2022-12-31 12:20 zandronum_2022-12-31-1321_players.jpg [^] (55,030 bytes) 2022-12-31 12:21 | ||||||||
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(0022612) Zalewa (developer) 2022-12-31 12:36 |
Quote from WubTheCaptain Corrected:'https://bitbucket.org/Doomseeker/doomseeker/commits/22392ed3f75983c67ad740de3108c8830a6d8238 [^]' Quote from WubTheCaptain The name of the game mode is Deathmatch, with the capital D. This is consistent with the game and in Doomseeker. It would be an error if you were to find deathmatch in lowercase. Quote from WubTheCaptain I think that the ambiguity is removed by this being in the LMS tab. If you know the game mode, you know what you're configuring. Zandronum's server console on Windows titles this box "Give players the..." (zandronum_2022-12-31-1319_LMS.jpg), but I'm not gonna change that anyway. Quote from WubTheCaptain Zandronum titles this "Don't let players..." (zandronum_2022-12-31-1321_players.jpg) but again, I'm not gonna change that. The wording is fine enough. Quote from WubTheCaptain The chasecam option works correctly - enabling it, enables the chasecam, which is by default disabled. The thing with these options is that they are directly linked (most of them, if not all) to dmflags and to the "+sv_*" console commands of the game itself. The dmflags being 0, or the "sv_*" ccmds being 0 indicate the default behavior. When you switch them to 1, your intent is always to change the default. I can't speak for the dmflags that were added in the early ZDoom versions, but historically the dmflags were added when the players desired or needed to alter the default/original/intended behavior of the port. Unfortunately this sometimes means that the flag will have a positive connotation (yes/allow/enable) and sometimes negative (no/disallow/disable/limit), resulting in the checkmark counter-intuintively meaning "no". Regardless, I'm not planning on altering the placement of any of the Zandronum settings. We may need to do some rearrangements in the future in case if more options are added and the layout becomes too cluttered, but that day is not today. |
(0022615) WubTheCaptain (reporter) 2022-12-31 13:39 edited on: 2022-12-31 13:40 |
In my opinion, Zandronum does it better here with rolling off the tongue well with "Don't let players...". Emphasis on the inclusion of ellipsis, an indication of an unfinished thought. |
(0022662) Zalewa (developer) 2023-01-05 12:30 |
Well, maybe, but I still don't find the current wording particularly problematic. Let's not dwell on this too much. Resolving. |
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Issue History | |||
Date Modified | Username | Field | Change |
2022-12-31 02:59 | WubTheCaptain | New Issue | |
2022-12-31 02:59 | WubTheCaptain | File Added: 2022-12-31-025218_maim.png | |
2022-12-31 03:00 | WubTheCaptain | File Added: 2022-12-31-030002_maim.png | |
2022-12-31 03:00 | WubTheCaptain | File Added: 2022-12-31-030025_maim.png | |
2022-12-31 11:22 | Zalewa | Relationship added | child of 0003676 |
2022-12-31 11:26 | Zalewa | Assigned To | => Zalewa |
2022-12-31 11:26 | Zalewa | Status | new => assigned |
2022-12-31 12:15 | Zalewa | Product Version | => 1.3.3 |
2022-12-31 12:15 | Zalewa | Target Version | => 1.4.0 |
2022-12-31 12:20 | Zalewa | File Added: zandronum_2022-12-31-1319_LMS.jpg | |
2022-12-31 12:21 | Zalewa | File Added: zandronum_2022-12-31-1321_players.jpg | |
2022-12-31 12:36 | Zalewa | Note Added: 0022612 | |
2022-12-31 12:36 | Zalewa | Status | assigned => needs review |
2022-12-31 13:39 | WubTheCaptain | Note Added: 0022615 | |
2022-12-31 13:39 | WubTheCaptain | Note Edited: 0022615 | View Revisions |
2022-12-31 13:40 | WubTheCaptain | Note Edited: 0022615 | View Revisions |
2023-01-05 12:30 | Zalewa | Note Added: 0022662 | |
2023-01-05 12:30 | Zalewa | Status | needs review => resolved |
2023-01-05 12:30 | Zalewa | Fixed in Version | => 1.4.0 |
2023-01-05 12:30 | Zalewa | Resolution | open => fixed |
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