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[FINAL] [ZCC] Zandronum's Community Classes - Vanilla Version Released
Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 4:56 am
by Catastrophe
A community class-making project
What is this?
This project is an attempt to pool-together custom player classes created by the community for fun in TLMS, LMS, DM, TDM, etc.
[FINAL] Re: [ZCC] Zandronum's Community Classes
Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 7:13 am
by Dark-Assassin
I thought ZCC was taken by Zandronum Community Client
[FINAL] Re: [ZCC] Zandronum's Community Classes
Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 7:24 am
by Fused
Catastrophe probably knows. I don't really care though
[FINAL] Re: [ZCC] Zandronum's Community Classes
Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:03 am
by Empyre
Would the class need replacements for all weapons like classes for Samsara, or would they start with all their weapons with no weapon pick-ups anywhere, or some other option that I didn't think of?
[FINAL] Re: [ZCC] Zandronum's Community Classes
Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 12:45 pm
by Catastrophe
Empyre wrote:Would the class need replacements for all weapons like classes for Samsara, or would they start with all their weapons with no weapon pick-ups anywhere, or some other option that I didn't think of?
They start with their weapons, think of it like GvH.
[FINAL] Re: [ZCC] Zandronum's Community Classes
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:23 am
by Empyre
Why are you aiming for Zandronum 2.1.2? The 3.0 beta is working pretty well, and it allows more functionality. I don't think you want this project to be nearly outdated when it is released.
[FINAL] Re: [ZCC] Zandronum's Community Classes
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:30 am
by jdagenet
Empyre wrote:Why are you aiming for Zandronum 2.1.2? The 3.0 beta is working pretty well, and it allows more functionality. I don't think you want this project to be nearly outdated when it is released.
I don't imagine any class requiring the new editing features that 3.0 has to offer. Designing for 2.1.2 would allow for backwards compatibility when 3.0 does come out.
[FINAL] Re: [ZCC] Zandronum's Community Classes
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:31 am
by Catastrophe
jdagenet wrote:Empyre wrote:Why are you aiming for Zandronum 2.1.2? The 3.0 beta is working pretty well, and it allows more functionality. I don't think you want this project to be nearly outdated when it is released.
I don't imagine any class requiring the new editing features that 3.0 has to offer. Designing for 2.1.2 would allow for backwards compatibility when 3.0 does come out.
Yes, exactly. If there is something very limiting in 2.1.2 that's only in 3.0, let me know and I'll update the rules to accommodate for this.
[FINAL] Re: [ZCC] Zandronum's Community Classes
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:44 am
by Empyre
I was wanting to adjust the sparsity of rails from A_RailAttack. However, I just tried it without that, and it looks alright.
Here's a first draft of my class, with all the weapons greatly tuned down versions of my opweapons, as close as I could get to normal weapons' damage, and it works in 2.1.2.
WeaponHacker_v1
[FINAL] Re: [ZCC] Zandronum's Community Classes
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 5:08 am
by Catastrophe
Empyre wrote:I was wanting to adjust the sparsity of rails from A_RailAttack. However, I just tried it without that, and it looks alright.
Here's a first draft of my class, with all the weapons greatly tuned down versions of my opweapons, as close as I could get to normal weapons' damage, and it works in 2.1.2.
WeaponHacker_v1
I don't seem to be able to pick your class when I run this pk3.
[FINAL] Re: [ZCC] Zandronum's Community Classes
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 5:19 am
by Erma
I'm interested in making a class for this. Is there a certain class limit or can you submit as many as you want?
[FINAL] Re: [ZCC] Zandronum's Community Classes
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 5:51 am
by Empyre
Catastrophe wrote:
I don't seem to be able to pick your class when I run this pk3.
The class is defined as the only class in the keyconf, so you are just automatically that class when you load my pk3 by itself for testing. I, or you, can remove clearplayerclasses from the keyconf lump if you don't want it there. Of course, the final project will have more than one class, so then you will need to choose a class. To incorporate my class into the project, you only need to copy the weaponhacker folder, the #include lines in the decorate lump, and copy the one line in the sndinfo lump into the project's sndinfo lump. You probably will already have actors that make the weapons not appear, like the ones I included in the decorate lump. I probably just told you a bunch of stuff that you already knew.
I plan to provide gldefs and decaldefs for my weapons in v2, along with tweaks based on your feedback. BTW, all my weapons here have alt-fires.
[FINAL] Re: [ZCC] Zandronum's Community Classes
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 6:41 am
by Catastrophe
Erma wrote:I'm interested in making a class for this. Is there a certain class limit or can you submit as many as you want?
As many as you want
Empyre wrote:Catastrophe wrote:
I don't seem to be able to pick your class when I run this pk3.
The class is defined as the only class in the keyconf, so you are just automatically that class when you load my pk3 by itself for testing. I, or you, can remove clearplayerclasses from the keyconf lump if you don't want it there. Of course, the final project will have more than one class, so then you will need to choose a class. To incorporate my class into the project, you only need to copy the weaponhacker folder, the #include lines in the decorate lump, and copy the one line in the sndinfo lump into the project's sndinfo lump. You probably will already have actors that make the weapons not appear, like the ones I included in the decorate lump. I probably just told you a bunch of stuff that you already knew.
I plan to provide gldefs and decaldefs for my weapons in v2, along with tweaks based on your feedback. BTW, all my weapons here have alt-fires.
Oh, I get it now lol. Got it and added to OP.
[FINAL] Re: [ZCC] Zandronum's Community Classes
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:12 am
by Erma
Hello Catastrophe!
I've already made a class for this, took me a couple of hours to make and I hope this fits within the rules and/or expected results.
https://www.mediafire.com/?g7qw5szxbdg1cdk
[FINAL] Re: [ZCC] Zandronum's Community Classes
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:27 am
by Catastrophe
[FINAL] Re: [ZCC] Zandronum's Community Classes
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 1:42 pm
by Ivan
So are you asking for a class like in GvH? Just a player class and some weapons?
[FINAL] Re: [ZCC] Zandronum's Community Classes
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 5:39 pm
by Zanieon
Hmm, interesting community project, after release HM V2.9 i will try to get an class for this one.
Since "all resources are allowed", is this counting 3D Models as well? Because if not, i have no problems in baking sprites from the class i'm going to contribute (inb4whydon'tyouincludebothsowhoplaysinOGLseethemodelandwhoplaysinSoftseethesprite?)
[FINAL] Re: [ZCC] Zandronum's Community Classes
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 6:01 pm
by Catastrophe
Ivan wrote:So are you asking for a class like in GvH? Just a player class and some weapons?
Ivan, literally anything. Though as a preference, classes that have abilities and weapons like in GvH are cooler IMO.
Zanieon wrote:Hmm, interesting community project, after release HM V2.9 i will try to get an class for this one.
Since "all resources are allowed", is this counting 3D Models as well? Because if not, i have no problems in baking sprites from the class i'm going to contribute (inb4whydon'tyouincludebothsowhoplaysinOGLseethemodelandwhoplaysinSoftseethesprite?)
As long as you make it so software users can also see them, then it is fine.
[FINAL] Re: [ZCC] Zandronum's Community Classes
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 6:04 pm
by Empyre
Zanieon wrote:Hmm, interesting community project, after release HM V2.9 i will try to get an class for this one.
Since "all resources are allowed", is this counting 3D Models as well? Because if not, i have no problems in baking sprites from the class i'm going to contribute (inb4whydon'tyouincludebothsowhoplaysinOGLseethemodelandwhoplaysinSoftseethesprite?)
I don't know if this is possible, but it would be great to have 3D models for GL mode and also sprites for software mode.
[FINAL] Re: [ZCC] Zandronum's Community Classes
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 6:17 pm
by Catastrophe
Empyre wrote:Zanieon wrote:Hmm, interesting community project, after release HM V2.9 i will try to get an class for this one.
Since "all resources are allowed", is this counting 3D Models as well? Because if not, i have no problems in baking sprites from the class i'm going to contribute (inb4whydon'tyouincludebothsowhoplaysinOGLseethemodelandwhoplaysinSoftseethesprite?)
I don't know if this is possible, but it would be great to have 3D models for GL mode and also sprites for software mode.
All Out War does this with their mechs, so I don't see why not.